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#1 Swedeman007

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 06:18 AM

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A dog snatching gang rounded up on the streets of a Sakon Nakhon village in April pleaded tough economic times when asked why they were forced to steal dogs off the streets.
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Normally, the dog meat trade is more organised, as everyone in Tha Rae subdistrict of the same province _ famous for its lively dog meat trade _ knows.
Police say the gang roamed several northern and northeastern provinces stealing dogs for a trading business in Tha Rae, where the trade flourishes despite recent crackdowns.
Dog traders cater to local appetites, but send the best of the dogs to customers in northern Vietnam, where dog meat is regarded as a delicacy.
The arrests were made after villagers in Phang Khon district alerted police that men had come to the village in a pickup truck and grabbed dogs off the streets.
The gang, dog traders in Tha Rae, had recently resorted to snatching dogs off the street as they were facing tough economic times. They claimed the price of dogs had gone up sharply and people did not trade their dogs for consumer goods any more.
Once, dog traders would travel to villages to barter goods such as buckets, bowls and dried food for the dogs or would just buy them outright.
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PLATE UP: A dish made of dog meat is still being sold in Tha Rae subdistrict. Top, a dog rescued from smuggling. PHOTOS: PORNPROM SATRABHAYA
The dog trade has carried on for years, particularly in Sakon Nakhon, which acts as a gateway for dog smugglers who send boatloads of the animals across the Mekong River to Laos, and on to Vietnam for sale, at prices many times the humble outlays they made for the dogs in Thailand.
A former dog trader, who asked not to be identified, said the price of a dog bought from villagers had increased sharply from 120-150 baht to 200-250 baht.
The price would jump to 400-500 baht at Tha Rae market after costs were factored in.
In August, the dog meat trade sprang back into the public eye when police arrested gangs smuggling 1,800 dogs in four trucks through nearby Nakhon Phanom's Na Thom district, and Si Songkhram district.
They arrested two Thais, and a Vietnamese man.
''Police believe all the dogs would have been transferred to a ship waiting in Ban Phaeng district before going across the Mekong River to be sold in Vietnam,'' said Nakhon Phanom's governor Rerngsak Mahavinitchaimontree, who was involved in the bust.
The dogs can fetch prices of 500-1,000 baht.
The dogs were taken to an animal shelter in Nakhon Phanom, where almost 1,000 of the animals have since died, from malnutrition _ the dogs would not eat the dried dog food provided, as they prefer rice _ and common dog diseases.
The well-publicised plight of the dogs raised 20.7 million baht from the public.
Many are probably unaware of the extent of the dog trade in Tha Rae, nor how it crosses national boundaries to also involve foreign nationals from Vietnam.
As recently as 2003, the trade was so big that up to 300 to 400 strays were thought to have been illegally rounded up daily and culled.
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RUFF TRADE: Villagers in Tha Rae subdistrict still sell dog meat.
In July that year, hundreds of people in the subdistrict rallied against a proposal by governor Panchai Borvornratanapran to ban the slaughtering and eating of man's best friend.
Mr Panchai said the subdistrict was home to 17 dog slaughter houses, with 300 people involved in dog meat trading in Tha Rae, which exported up to four tonnes of dog meat across the country every day.
A survey of 500 villagers by a local university, commissioned by the governor, found that 79% wanted to continue eating and selling dog meat.
The trade has lost none of its value, judging by the size of the smuggling bust in August.
The province imposed a ban on exports of dog meat to Vietnam following the seizure of the 1,800 dogs.
Last week, 500 dog meat traders in Nakhon Phanom came out in protest against the ban.
They rallied at the provincial hall, saying the ban had caused the trade in the area to grind to a halt.
Trader Sawaeng Dechaloet said the sale of dog meat is an honest profession and traders never steal dogs for export.
Since the bust, media crews have descended on Tha Rae.
Few traders can be seen selling dog meat in the local market. When Bangkok Post Sunday visited, the subdistrict's slaughterhouses were closed. Few residents were willing to comment.
Our inquiries show that local politicians and Vietnamese nationals jointly operate the trans-border trade, under which thousands of dogs have been rounded up and sent to markets in northern Vietnam.
Checks of vehicle registration records of the four pickup trucks intercepted in the Nakhon Phanom raid a few weeks ago suggest some local politicians are involved in the business.
Provincial administrative staff in Nakhon Phanom say two of the seized trucks are owned by local politicians.
One of them is a member of Tha Rae Tambon Administration Office, and another is a member of Tha Rae municipality.
A Vietnamese national owns another of the seized trucks.
The driver of this vehicle is thought to have ''cleared the way'' for the dog caravan, by paying bribes to officers at checkpoints along the route.
Local investigators are piecing together clues to figure out how the trade works. They say Vietnamese nationals travel from Vietnam to contact dog traders in Tha Rae.
Traders order their dog collection teams to search for dogs.
These collectors go away for four or five days at a time, offering plastic bowls in exchange for dogs. The bowls cost 50 baht to 100 baht each.
They travel as far as Phichit province on the Central Plain in search of the animals, though some are stolen right from in front of their owners' homes.
The dogs are kept in temporary cages, before being taken to Ban Phang and Na Wa districts in Nakhon Phanom for their voyage across the Mekong River.
The dogs are put into temporary cages by the river where Vietnamese traders select ''top grade'' dogs.
Those selected are put into cages on longtail boats, and sent across the Mekong River to Laos.
They are then taken by road to the north of Vietnam.
The ''low grade'' dogs rejected by the Vietnamese traders are taken back to Tha Rae for local consumption.
Once it has crossed the border to Vietnam, each dog _ worth the price of a plastic bowl in Thailand _ can be sold for as much as 800 to 1,000 baht.
Livestock investigators believe at least two consignments of dogs are taken across the border each week.
One truck can take up to 300 dogs crammed in stacked cages.
''It's a trans-border operation, with some Vietnamese directing the operation themselves,'' said Nakhon Phanom governor Mr Rerngsak.
The dog trade has been ticking away quietly in this region but it wasn't until 2003 that it grew into a trans-border operation.
The first arrests were made in 2003, when over 800 dogs intercepted, and some Vietnamese were identified as being involved.
The Livestock Development Department can issue permits to regulate the dog trade, but says no one has ever applied for one.
Because the Animal Diseases Control Act does not mention dog trading for meat, several dog traders have argued there is actually no direct regulation in place to regulate the practice, and as a result they have not broken the law.
However, the department sees it differently.
It considers that dog trading for meat are also about animal trading, which are regulated under the act.
Dog traders also have been found playing their trade in several other provinces, including Maha Sarakham and Kalasin.
Arrested dog caravan drivers are charged with illegal trading of animals and illegal transportation of animals. They are also charged with cruelty to animals under the Criminal Code.
Penalties for illegal trading in animals are light: jail of up to two years, and/or a fine of up to 40,000 baht.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 09:48 AM

I bought my ex a dog as she was for ever on about having one, she named it shogun ???
Anyway after the initial loving it etc etc and then getting board with it, she use to let it roam around her village, It bit a young kid so the ex's father dragged it home clubbed it and ate the little fucker !!

Edited by Fie dollah, 04 September 2011 - 09:49 AM.


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Posted 04 September 2011 - 10:36 AM

When I was in the Navy in Olongapo in the Philippines. I was passing a restaurant it had a sign saying wanted German Sheppard puppies. They had these BBQ'd chicken legs that were huge!!! And very tasty I might add.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 10:42 AM

View PostTLok, on 04 September 2011 - 10:36 AM, said:

When I was in the Navy in Olongapo in the Philippines. I was passing a restaurant it had a sign saying wanted German Sheppard puppies. They had these BBQ'd chicken legs that were huge!!! And very tasty I might add.
:Rolling: :Rolling: :Eating: thanks for the great laugh TLok!

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 11:38 AM

I wish they would come here and eat the dogs which crap on the pavements.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 11:42 AM

Koreans have been eating dogs for ever!!!

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 12:05 PM

Dog is eaten in many Asian countries as a delicacy. In Thailand they eat them in most of the northern provinces. China now finds owning a dog for show a status symbol, so in some of their provinces dog has gone from on the table to underneath it. The worst smell I ever encountered was a guy using a torch to burn the hair off the dog to prepare it for dinner. Imported dogs are not wanted, they want the local fat ones, the muscle is too tough to chew threw on an import.

Its a dog eat dog world they say.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:54 AM

woff woff have shag a few in my day.....well when i woke up in the morning thats what i called them DOGS lol regards GarryPosted Image

Edited by garrydirty, 05 September 2011 - 04:55 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:03 AM

If people had cattle for pets instead of dogs, would people think eating a steak was strange? :Eating:

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:09 AM

I once went out with a lb who told me she could smell the wonderful smell of dog, even if they were cooking it in the next village. Aroi mak mak!.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:25 AM

View PostQuietguy, on 04 September 2011 - 11:38 AM, said:

I wish they would come here and eat the dogs which crap on the pavements.

Note that this is also a major part of the diet of pigs in Asia (I've seen them under the latrine after I've left ... so know this first hand). These are the same pigs that end up as 'pork' in you soup

In general, Asians will eat anything that doesn't eat people (those animals like wolves are considered unclean). Dog's I guess occupy a nether region, being very close to wolves (basically wolves on Prozac is how they are constructed) ... and Thai villages usually have a lot of snarly mutts that probably deserve to be eaten anyway ... just my $0.02

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:27 AM

View PostTSteve C, on 05 September 2011 - 05:03 AM, said:

If people had cattle for pets instead of dogs, would people think eating a steak was strange? :Eating:

Again, Asian's differentiate their meat by whether the animal eats humans ... if you eat a wolf that has eaten a human, then you would be cannibalistic ... Generally you don't have to worry about this with cows

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 02:14 PM

View PostMasahiko, on 04 September 2011 - 12:05 PM, said:

Dog is eaten in many Asian countries as a delicacy...
Korea and the Philippines are usually the 2 nations that are regarded as fans of dog meat - I was unaware that Thais were and I have long since been unsurprised about the Chinese diet. As we consider dogs as pets the trade is doubly horrific, but I daresay that more conventional meat is treated and slaughtered in the same way. I have heard tales about the meat on the street grills in Pattaya (rat being one of the theories) - I just pray that the chicken ones I've eaten were genuinely chicken !

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:03 PM

I stop asking what the dish I was eating is in Thailand after I ate what I thought to be barely soup. Turned out it was ant eggs in that spicy sour broth. They say the rats found in rice fields are actually quite healthy and I think I would prefer them to those dried smelly ass squid they sell on the food carts around town.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 10:35 PM

ive been to sakhon nakhon twice,and ive heard about the dog eating....I 've asked a few people from there do they eat dog,and invariably they say NO...an interesting story I heard there regarding dog eating .....apparently dogs can smell a human who has eaten dog ,and bark and growl as they pass by.......ive also heard this told to me by an old guy (european) who eat dog during the war

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 10:40 PM

Wonder if its the same for pigs having a sixth sense ? They always seem to be grunting as i was shown around Tars little farm. Posted Image

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 10:43 PM

<------- dog lover here, but not for chow.

I thought this site was interesting..... http://bkkstreetdogs.blogspot.com/ just thought I'd share.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 11:53 PM

View PostFie dollah, on 05 September 2011 - 10:40 PM, said:

Wonder if its the same for pigs having a sixth sense ? They always seem to be grunting as i was shown around Tars little farm. Posted Image

I think it might have been then flirting with you more than a 6th sense :Smile 3:

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 12:17 AM

does it really surprise you!!!, they eat rats and bugs, a bit canine would be a special treat compared to that

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:52 AM

View PostPandemonium, on 06 September 2011 - 12:17 AM, said:

does it really surprise you!!!, they eat rats and bugs, a bit canine would be a special treat compared to that


Agreed ... though the scariest food I have seen on the Thai streets are scorpions ... I think in the Thai environment it's better to ask how well it is cooked rather than what it was a few hours ago


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