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#21 lifeisbeautiful

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 08:21 PM

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Guitar is a c**t fullstop.
be extra careful around blue dragon. the most unpredictable skanks in town.
i thought i was in for a stilletoe in the back of the head for not wanting to take one home.
"you make me lose face now"
yeah right.


I agree Blue Dragon is full of nuts :-) OMG I was chased down the soi FEW times by a ex-SF gal (because 3 holidays i back i once barfined her and she thinks i must not go with anyone in any soi where she work bcos she lose face FFS) and also by Guitar (me handsom man she like too mutt she say but violently) and finally I returned back to soi with a real real skank I intentionally barfined from another bar who is notorious throughout beach area that no one in Blue Dragon dare to mess! They all speechless when I said she my friend! :-) I'm again a free man in Soi!

Edited by lifeisbeautiful, 08 July 2012 - 08:38 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:40 AM

No real drama from my experience, but had a cocktails and dreams girl, destroy my thai sim through jealousy

She also formatted my camera, so i lost loads of birthday pictures. Wish i had never bothered with her now.


Forgot 2 say, if i had any proper grief in pattaya, id go cascades, barfine janet LT, and take her with me around pattaya, as insurance

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:35 AM

Janet did not make the semi final of 'Thailand's Got Talent', Walking Street beckons . . .

Thailand how do I love theee . . let me name that ways

Caught by LB GF shagging another one . . . punch in face 1
Caught again by same GF . . . punch in face 2
Camera smashed to pieces and shirts slashed with a knife
Bag full of work documents thrown off balcony into a pond next door

Punched and slapped more times than I can remember
Big fight with a ladyboy outside NEP involved her falling down the stairs and punching each other almost into unconsciousness
Stabbed in the back

I draw the line the same as Garry but I find it hard to really let them have it when they do something like slap me . . .no problem fighting with a man with a capital M! Ladyboys, just too feminine despite being very strong . . . even the little ones.

Annie slapped me across the face so hard once my ear was ringing for a day afterwards.

THEY ARE CRAZY BUGGERS AT TIMES, THESE LADYBOYS!!!

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:38 AM

Janet did not make the semi final of 'Thailand's Got Talent', Walking Street beckons . . .

Thailand how do I love theee . . let me name that ways

Caught by LB GF shagging another one . . . punch in face 1
Caught again by same GF . . . punch in face 2
Camera smashed to pieces and shirts slashed with a knife
Bag full of work documents thrown off balcony into a pond next door

Punched and slapped more times than I can remember
Big fight with a ladyboy outside NEP involved her falling down the stairs and punching each other almost into unconsciousness
Stabbed in the back

I draw the line the same as Garry but I find it hard to really let them have it when they do something like slap me . . .no problem fighting with a man with a capital M! Ladyboys, just too feminine despite being very strong . . . even the little ones.

Annie slapped me across the face so hard once my ear was ringing for a day afterwards.

THEY ARE CRAZY BUGGERS AT TIMES, THESE LADYBOYS!!!


I have a rule,

If a ladyboy slaps me then I will just take it because she is fighting like a girl.

If she punches me then depending on the situation she is fair game for a smack in the chops, afterall she is now fighting like a man.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:11 AM

I have always returned the punches . . . . but they just keep getting back up!!!

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:48 AM

unless you stay in your room...eventually, every Pattaya monger will be involved in numerous hooker dust ups. Just as they are part of the hooker scene back home, Pattaya is no different.

It's all about how you adapt to the many incidents you have/will encounter.

roll with the punches...water off a ducks back, forget about it, grow/learn from each negative situation, move on and enjoy yourself.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:23 AM

Just a few comments on what you wrote.

Caught by LB GF shagging another one . . . punch in face 1

OK, who would not do that. I think you can attribute it to yourself.

Caught again by same GF . . . punch in face 2

Same same as before.

Camera smashed to pieces and shirts slashed with a knife

Oh! That hurts! See comment on the bottom of this message.

Bag full of work documents thrown off balcony into a pond next door

Happened to me, too. With a european GG in Europe.

Big fight with a ladyboy outside NEP involved her falling down the stairs and punching each other almost into unconsciousness

WHAT!? Who was that LB? I cannot imagine some was able to take it up with you.

Annie slapped me across the face so hard once my ear was ringing for a day afterwards.

... and I thought that Annie was a very nice and calm ladyboy. Actually she did this impression on me.

Cheyenne, I just wonder about one thing. We are both quite tall, you taller than me. You must be something like 6'6" or more. We both did military service in a combat unit. I cannot imagine a ladyboy starting a fight with you - except maybe when it is a jealousy reaction, when she caught you shagging someone else. In all other cases I suppose you would broke both her arms and one leg, plus tear her into 5 pieces. I cannot imagine how a LB can start a big fight with you outside NEP

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:34 AM

the way i see it, a trips not a trip unless you have had the "i pay thai man to kill you" line thrown at you at least once.
plus having a stalker hanging around outside your apartment.

Edited by Rustybullethole, 09 July 2012 - 11:35 AM.


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Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:14 PM

The worse for me was me and mrs lotus was in hua hin , and she went to get her nails done, she asked the price in one shop and found it to expensive , so went to the next one , I waited an hour for her and she came over when she had finished , the next second this nutter from the first shop came out screaming at us because she went to the other shop.

But it got worse , this women English was excellent and started using the cunt word and she started poking me with her cane I picked up my phone to call the police and she spat in my face , that's worse than getting a punch in the face for me. The bar staff were great and held onto her until the police came and me and the mrs did a statements , the tourist police in hua hin are great.

After been given a free drink the staff told us she is the local nutter who picks on westerns with Thai girls.

The crazy bitch

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:14 AM

I am unsure why ladyboy prostitutes behave this way but suspect it is a combination of things?

Lack of manners because of their socialisation/deprivation as kids. Absent parents, alcoholism, violence and feuds are common in Isaan.

Drug use, constant daily use of yabba and Ice

Hormone use makes them irrational and unable to holster their emotions.

The sense that Farangs are not a part of the heirarchical social structure and hence not really 'worthy' of respect in the same way a Thai man is?

I guess though that with all the factors above ladyboys are also male and have testosterone running around their brains also. Add their relative youth and 'rebellious nature' and its a wonder they don't do more damage!

I sometimes wonder if the thai bargirl jealousy thing is just a smokescreen to make farangs think, 'wow, she must really love/like me", and keep them for LT.

Bullseye . . . . . Annie can be wild when she feels jealous or more importantly when I have said things like, 'We are over'! I only said it once!!!

She is usually happy and stable but has her moments like all people

A ladyboy did start a jealous, drunken fight with me . . .but I finished it. She spent a day or do hobbling around afterwards.
I really had no choice but to defend myself which meant hurting her.

of course most of us can physically outmatch any ladyboy even Janet if we really had to but personally speaking i am now old enough to control myself enough to avoid eviscerating someone of the 'female' persuasion.

In the conflicts I have had of that kind I have just shoved them away from me which usually means they fall down but . . . ahh it's just not good to get involved in that kind of stuff if you can avoid it.

It's not as if we are usually dealing with complete strangers who assault us . . there is usually some emotional context.

I have stuck up for more ladyboys in conflict with farangs than i have had fights with it has to be said.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:20 AM

I does seem our muslim Arab friends have problems with ladyboys , or anyone not dressed in a black sack, they are very good at insults but not so good at been confronted.



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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:29 AM

I sometimes wonder if the thai bargirl jealousy thing is just a smokescreen to make farangs think, 'wow, she must really love/like me", and keep them for LT.


Ah, now THERE's a topic worthy of a thread.

So what did you decide after wondering about for a goodly amount of time?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:32 AM

I can never see anyone spending a lot of time with you if they don't like you.?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:39 AM

The sense that Farangs are not a part of the heirarchical social structure and hence not really 'worthy' of respect in the same way a Thai man is?


That is new thread starter topic for sure.
personally, the more trips i have, the more i see their contempt for the falang.
they see us beneath them and stupid.
but rich.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:50 AM

That is new thread starter topic for sure.
personally, the more trips i have, the more i see their contempt for the falang.
they see us beneath them and stupid.
but rich.


And vice versa... I sure let my only know what I think of her no good Thai friends&some family members every time. :Devil:

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 11:50 AM

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Deepthroat, i have thought that for some time largely because many ladyboys and girls will tell you they love you after knowing you for less than a week! However I think that the words, 'Love' and 'Jealous' are perhaps some of the only words available in a ladyboy's lexicon.

The words do not carry any cultural weight relatively speaking and therefore I doubt they have any emotional weight. only a child uses a word like 'Love' without recognising its resonance.

If we try to tell a ladyboy that 'i respect you, like your company and feel a kind of tenderness towards you and even empathy for you, but i don't love you as such', we will fail unless we are really gifted in Thai. We are likely to fall back on the few words of Thai we know. Ladyboys have the same problem and so while they may feel all of the above . . .they can only say, 'i Lub you'. That does not mean, in my opinion, that they are insincere, just limited by their language and often some of the sweetest ladyboys are those that have not been in the scene for long.

Of course some feel nothing and for the same reason they say, 'I lub you', they feign jealousy. That's just a form of manipulation and we all know a few ladyboys who are the ubermeisters of that little trait!

I have experienced it from a couple of ladyboys in bars that I took a couple of times and then on a return visit, barfined another ladyboy. I must admit to feeling a little difficult when i had not been here long and took Aui from Guess Bar twice, the second time as she kept calling me.
I had seen Gate on my second visit there and fell in instant lust with her. When I sat with her on my third visit to the bar, determined to take her, Aui was a bit nasty and spiteful but Gate had a word with her and away we went, starting a friendship and not a little respect I have for Gate even today.

A few other BM's have even said that they can't go back to that bar because Cream/Aom/Apple will go ballistic if I don't take them. Absolutely nuts in my opinion but a phenomenon neverthless.

I just asked Annie and she said, 'ladyboy do like this only for money, maybe farang think she like him too much so he take her and she do because she not want lose face if farang take another from same bar'. There you have it.

As far as the respect thing for farangs being the same or different for thai men she said, 'Must always have respect for customer even you not like'. When I said that some ladyboys clearly do not she said, 'Up to them, they stupid, bad people, not have respect in any job they do'.

Lotus, i think that's a good point and I don't know the answer. maybe its up to individuals?

I know that Toei ex of Cascades when offered good money to travel upcountry with a BM agreed but then renaged on the deal so its not just or always about money.

I think if the guy is not too much hard work and is not crazy or expecting too much of them they are probably ok with it. Not sure that equates to liking?

I have had students whom I liked and would 'go the extra mile for them' and some whom I did not like much but did what I could as it was my job. Perhaps its a similar thing?

Robi, how right you are mate!

I keep my own counsel now, only once did i pass comment when Farida's party member (red shirt) brother who spends his days teaching local Isaan kids to stay away from drugs and fast living and immorality asked her to borrow 20,000 baht.

I said, 'why should you pay for him, tell him to come to Bangkok and suck some cocks himself if he wants some money, if my sister was doing what you do I would get in my fucking car and drag her home'.


She did not speak to me for two days and NEVER forgot it!!

Edited by cheyenne, 11 July 2012 - 12:04 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:07 PM

Great response Cheyenne. I cannot adequately comment as my experience in LOS is still relatively limited, but if pressed I would have said exactly what Annie said - that the feigned jealousy is usually an economic move, tied with desire not to "lose face" if farang take someone else from same bar.

My attitude is still the same - I tell girl after our first S/T or L/T that I'm a butterfly, and I will return to her bar and take other girls. So far they've all said they were ok with that, and only a notable couple (who'm I've mentioned in the threads) have tried to make an issue of this. Although I prefer not having confrontation and stress during my trips, I also don't want or need the approval of a transexual teenager from thailand to do what I've said I'm going to do, which is to have a great vacation and do exactly what I want.

I could probably be more "culturally sensitive" but that just seems like to much fu**ing work to take all those imperatives into account, so for now I'll just continue doing what I've done.

Thanks for the response.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:51 PM

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This is one of the more interesting threads on the board, and I really appreciate the insights offered by Cheyenne, in particular. For me it is somewhat easier to avoid drama, because I am not looking for a relationship. I'm totally up front about this with the girls, and if this seems to bother one in the slightest, I move on (as nicely as possibly) without consummating the deal.

I suspect (but am not certain) that matters are more complicated if a girl sees one of us as a potential source of support (used in a very broad sense). They have difficult lives, and many--perhaps most--are searching for someone who will give them a break from having to constantly hustle for the next drink, bar fine, etc., even if it's just for a few months. And beyond the economic imperative that seems to drive much of their behavior, there are cultural factors ("face"), social factors (discrimination), psychological factors (gender identity, etc.) and biological factors (hormonal shifts, testosterone-linked aggression, etc.). Given the wild mix of all these factors that most of these girls are dealing with, is it any wonder that some occasionally--or more than occasionally-seem to come a bit unhinged?

So I try to make sure right up front to let them know, without being rude, that I'm just in town for fun, looking to share the fun and some of my money. I try to keep it light and make them laugh. And thus far I've experienced zero drama.

BTW, I think the Asian "face" issue may play a pretty large role, is implied by several guys. In Brazil, where I spend a lot of time, the jealousy issue is almost unheard of. I think this is because the "face" issue doesn't play out, both for cultural reasons and because in Brazil it is almost exclusively a freelance situation, so there are no bars with groups of ladyboys and, thus, few situations in which face could be lost. All the other factors I mentioned above are operating in Brazil, but the absence of the face issue seems to lower the drama quotient substantially.

Edited by Bwana_LB, 11 July 2012 - 03:55 PM.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:28 AM

Not any problems with lb's yet, but I keep my distance, it's always just business, I have never even really done lt with one and 95% of my interaction will be in bar st. I can imagine that when you get deeper involved with lb's (or any Thai for that matter) you'll get more trouble, but in my case that will never happen.

Been slapped, punched and kicked by a few Thai girls, threatend with a knife once, none of them managed to really hurt me, and I agree with others you just have to take it, as the whole country could turn against you. However they are playing a dangerous game, as they can kick and punch all they want, without inflicting much damage, but many of us could easily hospitalise them in a reflex. I'm pretty sure (in hindsight) that the few girls I've had trouble with in the past, were on drugs, and that can make them lose inhibition and perspective.

As for valuebles, I don't bring any to Thailand. You want to break my phone? Fine! It'll cost me 500B to replace it and It'll take that out of your paycheck! I do worry about hotel property sometimes, but they mostly seem to respect that..

I do believe there would be less risk from police if you defended yourself against an lb, instead of a gg. They do have a bad rep and police don't like them much more than they like Farang.

Edited by Lucius, 24 July 2012 - 06:37 AM.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:10 AM

I was heading to linda one morning for a breakfast, and was accosted by the famous "Barbie" in that small alleyway between the wicker chairs.
she was rattling like fuck telling me she had a big cock etc....
i declined the offer, im just off for food.
she then sits in Linda bar staring at me and kicked off.
accusing me of all sorts , and ranting shit that made no sense.
i told mr wan to forget the breakfast, ill pay you for it but im leaving.
just then, a copper pulled up outside on a bike.
he watched the drug fuelled ranting, could see i was uncomfortable, but even he must have thought "fuck this, im keeping out of it".
next day, Barbie is all matey with me, hello teelak, how are you etc......
loony skank.


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