Deepthroat, i have thought that for some time largely because many ladyboys and girls will tell you they love you after knowing you for less than a week! However I think that the words, 'Love' and 'Jealous' are perhaps some of the only words available in a ladyboy's lexicon.
The words do not carry any cultural weight relatively speaking and therefore I doubt they have any emotional weight. only a child uses a word like 'Love' without recognising its resonance.
If we try to tell a ladyboy that 'i respect you, like your company and feel a kind of tenderness towards you and even empathy for you, but i don't love you as such', we will fail unless we are really gifted in Thai. We are likely to fall back on the few words of Thai we know. Ladyboys have the same problem and so while they may feel all of the above . . .they can only say, 'i Lub you'. That does not mean, in my opinion, that they are insincere, just limited by their language and often some of the sweetest ladyboys are those that have not been in the scene for long.
Of course some feel nothing and for the same reason they say, 'I lub you', they feign jealousy. That's just a form of manipulation and we all know a few ladyboys who are the ubermeisters of that little trait!
I have experienced it from a couple of ladyboys in bars that I took a couple of times and then on a return visit, barfined another ladyboy. I must admit to feeling a little difficult when i had not been here long and took Aui from Guess Bar twice, the second time as she kept calling me.
I had seen Gate on my second visit there and fell in instant lust with her. When I sat with her on my third visit to the bar, determined to take her, Aui was a bit nasty and spiteful but Gate had a word with her and away we went, starting a friendship and not a little respect I have for Gate even today.
A few other BM's have even said that they can't go back to that bar because Cream/Aom/Apple will go ballistic if I don't take them. Absolutely nuts in my opinion but a phenomenon neverthless.
I just asked Annie and she said, 'ladyboy do like this only for money, maybe farang think she like him too much so he take her and she do because she not want lose face if farang take another from same bar'. There you have it.
As far as the respect thing for farangs being the same or different for thai men she said, 'Must always have respect for customer even you not like'. When I said that some ladyboys clearly do not she said, 'Up to them, they stupid, bad people, not have respect in any job they do'.
Lotus, i think that's a good point and I don't know the answer. maybe its up to individuals?
I know that Toei ex of Cascades when offered good money to travel upcountry with a BM agreed but then renaged on the deal so its not just or always about money.
I think if the guy is not too much hard work and is not crazy or expecting too much of them they are probably ok with it. Not sure that equates to liking?
I have had students whom I liked and would 'go the extra mile for them' and some whom I did not like much but did what I could as it was my job. Perhaps its a similar thing?
Robi, how right you are mate!
I keep my own counsel now, only once did i pass comment when Farida's party member (red shirt) brother who spends his days teaching local Isaan kids to stay away from drugs and fast living and immorality asked her to borrow 20,000 baht.
I said, 'why should you pay for him, tell him to come to Bangkok and suck some cocks himself if he wants some money, if my sister was doing what you do I would get in my fucking car and drag her home'.
She did not speak to me for two days and NEVER forgot it!!
Edited by cheyenne, 11 July 2012 - 12:04 PM.