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The story of a freelancer, April Suites and my stolen camera

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It is now 6:21 AM here in my hotel room in April Suites. Instead of being sound asleep I'm extremely upset after the events of the past few hours. So instead of going to bed I decided to document the events of the past few hours so maybe some of you can benefit from its conclusions. I apologize if it is a bit too detailed and boring but I am writing it fresh from my memory and would rather include all the boring details. Also, English is not my first Language, so forgive me for any mistakes. This is of course my side of the story, but I’ll try and keep it as objective as possible and let you guys decide for yourselves what to make of it. Some of the warning signs seemed perfectly harmless at the time, but I’m including them since in retrospect they do seem as warning signs.

First, let’s start with some background: I own two cameras, a Canon DSLR (450D) and a compact Olympus VG-120 which is lighter than my iPhone and costs around 150 USD. I own them both as they are complementary to each other. My DSLR cannot shoot movies and the Olympus both shoots 720p movies and fits in my pocket to go anywhere I go to.

Today (or actually yesterday) I got to Pattaya around 6PM after a night flight. For my first night I planned on going to sleep rather early and planned on a GG from a Go-Go to join me for the night. I spent the evening going to several gogos around walking street, but all the girls I picked either quoted a too high price for a LT (3000 baht) or did not want to go for a LT. I exited my last Go-Go at 3AM in a rather drunken state about to head to insomnia to finally find the girl to spend the night with.

On my way a cute youngish girl approached me who soon turned out to be a femboy. Her English was quite bad but she said she wanted to “take care” of me. She said her name was Suzy, that she is from Korat and that it was her first day in Pattaya (or second, since she alternated between today and two day). When asked how much said “up to you”, after I asked her again she said 500 baht and she could stay with me until tomorrow if I wanted. Despite my original plan of getting a GG for my first night this seemed like a good opportunity so I decided to go with. After verifying she had her ID card with her we took a motorbike taxi straight to my room at the April suites.

She left her ID at the reception and we went up to the room. She asked to take a picture of the two of us with her Blackberry and this followed to be a “model shoot” of her. I took almost a 100 pictures with my DSLR and several more (and some movies) with my compact camera. I have to say that despite the language barrier the atmosphere was great, we drank and danced together and we were both happy. She said she was only in town for a few days and planned to go home to Korat to be a hair dresser. In the bed she seemed to be a bit inexperienced, and mostly wanted me to suck her. She even took my Olympus camera and took a video of me doing it. When I fucked her she was in great pain and I gave up after a short while, took a quick shower and had her suck me off instead. Since she was in such genuine pain I asked her if I was her and she said I was (but she might have not understood me). In the middle of sucking me she said “after you finish you go down with me to reception, I shy go alone”, I told her we’ll discuss this after I cum which I soon did. She told me to shower again while she dressed. When I got out of the shower she was already dressed and said (“you give me 500 baht”. I asked why she is not spending the night and she said “I have school tomorrow in Bangkok”. Despite her not staying for a LT as agreed I still gave her the 500 baht + a 100 baht tip. I told her she can go to the reception by herself and before she left I asked for her phone number so I can send her the pictures. I dialed the number until I heard her phone ring and hung up. This was at 4:57 (all exact times are from the call log on my phone).

She went down to the reception and I started to look around to make sure everything was in place. I quickly found out that my Olympus compact camera was missing. Now comes the stupidest part on my behalf (I blame it on the Alcohol residues in my blood): instead of directly calling the reception telling them not to let her go I assumed they will call me before letting her go (this was my first night in April suites and that was the protocol in my previous hotels) and spent a couple of more minutes looking for the camera. Since we had such a good time I still doubted the fact that she took it. At 5:01AM (less than 4 minutes after she left my room) I called her to ask if she knows where my camera is and to come back to my room. She said she doesn’t know and will come back to my room, the call lasted 44 seconds (I still thought she is at the hotel at this time as they didn’t call me asking to return her id card). After a couple of more minutes I was now pretty sure the camera is gone and I ran down to the reception. They said they already gave her the id and she is gone. At 5:06 I called her again, there was noise and I couldn’t really understand what she said (call lasted 36 seconds). I called her again at 5:07, 5:07, 5:08, 5:09 and no answer. I then sent her the following text message – “If you not come now I call police. I have a copy of your id. If you give me back camera I make no problem”. At 5:10 she finally answered the phone and said she was coming back (38 seconds). At 5:16 she answered again (17 seconds) said she is on her way. While waiting I asked the receptionist why they didn’t call me before returning her id and she said that she didn’t want to wake me up (WTF? there’s even a sign at the reception saying I should call the reception before they give the girl her ID back).

When she arrived at hotel 20 minutes after she left, I assumed that if she came back she will give my camera back to me, but instead she said she does not know where it is. She emptied her wallet next to the receptionists and showed it is not there. The receptionists did their first smart move for the evening and immediately took back her id card and locked it away. I kept telling her that if she gives me back my camera I will not go to the police but after she told me she doesn’t have it I told her that she should come up to my room to show me where it is. I was very upset at this time, but tried to keep calm and not losing it. We went up to the room with the security guy and the first thing she did was to completely undress to prove that the camera was not on her body (although both me and the security guy said this was not necessary and were a bit embarrassed by it). We searched the room some more and after agreeing it was not there we came back down. After some more discussions I went back to the room, this time joined by the security guy and her motorbike taxi driver while she stayed at the reception. They thoroughly searched my rooms and my bags although this was not necessary since the camera was right on the bed the last time I saw it and nowhere near my bags. After about 10 minutes we all agreed it was not there.

Going back down, the receptionist said the LB told her that if I go to the police she will tell them I lie and press charges against me as well. The receptionist called their CCTV guy (it was already 5:45AM) so we can all watch the security cameras. This took about 10-15 minutes but was of course futile because she put the camera in her small purse before leaving the room while I was in the shower.

Her story was that she walked to TOPS supermarket, took the motorbike taxi to walking street and when I called her she was already on it. She did not answer the rest of the calls since she was on the motorbike taxi and then told him to turn around and take her to my hotel. The motorbike taxi driver confirmed her story - he picked her up from TOPS supermarket and turned back on the way to walking street. All communications at this point had to be through the receptionists since she “forgot” all her English by then.

During this time I started looking at my call log and understood her story doesn’t make sense. She left my room after 4:57 and I first called her less than 4 minutes later at 5:01. By that time she barely left the hotel, there is no way she managed to walk from my room down to the reception, take her id, walk all the way to TOPS supermarket (at least a 5 minute walk, after leaving the hotel) and take a motorbike taxi. In addition, if she was already on the motorbike taxi, why did it take her more than 15 minutes to come back? Why did she stop answering my calls until I texted her saying I have a copy of her ID and threatened to go to the Police? My assumption is that after I first called her she gave the camera to someone or stashed it somewhere before catching the motorbike taxi. I tried to confront her with these questions but with no success. She said that if she would have taken the camera she would not have come back to the hotel.

The receptionists then said – “OK, you can go police”, but then started telling me that I have no proof in the CCTV camera, and if I go to police the girl will tell I’m lying and if they believe her she can sue me for losing face (is that possible??) and then “you go to jail”. I was of course not happy about the prospect of me spending the night in a Thai prison. I was completely pissed off but decided the 150$ camera was not worth spending a few hours at the police station and it I would probably not get my camera back then either. And there was the option of her suing me or just finding me one drunken night and have someone beat the crap out of me. Since it was already after 6AM I just said fuck it and went back to the room. Now I don’t even have a police authorization to get some money from my travel insurance for the theft. I really hope this won’t ruin my time here as I’m really pissed off and can’t even think of sex and/or trusting unknown girls.

Conclusions?

  • First of all, if anyone sees her DON’T GO WITH HER!
  • Whenever you have a girl in your room, watch your valuables at all times, no matter how well you get on with your girl.
  • And always specifically ask the reception to call you before they return her ID, and before you authorize it double check that you are missing nothing! If they would have called me the camera was still on her and this entire fiasco would have been spared from me.

I’ll be happy to hear if any of you guys would handle things differently than I did.
I’ll finish this with a couple of pictures of her for your enjoyment. I hope It's OK to post these kind of messages in the public forum. If not the mods are welcome to move it to the appropriate forum.

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Guest Huckleberry Fin

Seem's you did all you could, Put it down to experience and try not let it ruin the rest of your holiday.

be more worried about where your video of sucking her off ends up than police number for insurance claim.

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OOPS!!!!

I hadn't thought about it until now....

FUCK!!!

 

Try not to let it ruin your holiday. Amazing things can be done with computer rendering and you can always claim it was special effects if it turns up online. :) I'd stick to bar workers for the rest of your trip though. Got to be careful of freelancers off WS especially if you enjoy a drink.

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yeah thats bad. i live here now a while and this LB would never ever confirm that she stole your camera (because she losing her face).... but if u not with her then she will confirm it. that meens if the police or the tourist police show off she would say it to them but never to u. but if something like this happn sure u can contact the police!

 

is always good if u know some guys from the police but if u dont it also doesnt matter because the police will try to help u. its true that the police can charge u or put u in prison if u telling them stuff get stolen for getting the money back home from a injurance company. BUT the thing is u know who stole it so its an other situation and that u get to prison in this situation is just impossible.

 

the worst thing can happn is the police tell you ok she confirm that she stole your camera and she get charged for rubbery but u anyway wont get yout camera back or the money. if its gone then its gone cause they have places where they bring their stolen stuff like pawn shops and they just gone and they wont get it back

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Another thing to consider is if you had involved the police and they found the camera with pornographic content on it you could be looking at paying out serious tea money to get yourself out of bother.

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yes thats actually true :D and if a girl tell me to take a shower before bring her down to the reciption sounds pretty clear what she gonna do in this time :D so blame it on the alcohol and dont think about it nomore :D

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The content on the camera is far more valuable to someone than the camera itself.

 

Forget it and move straight out of that fucking hotel, they should have protected you better and you don't want the skinny bitch turning up with a fake policeman demanding money. :angry:

 

Oh and on the way out of the hotel smile and thank them and mention you will be telling Trip Advisor, Agoda and Asia rooms of what a great job they did of looking after you.

 

The Satang should drop by the time you're checking into your new gaff. B)

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Forget it and move straight out of that fucking hotel, they should have protected you better and you don't want the skinny bitch turning up with a fake policeman demanding money. :angry:

 

Oh and on the way out of the hotel smile and thank them and mention you will be telling Trip Advisor, Agoda and Asia rooms of what a great job they did of looking after you.

 

 

 

Most Thai's don't give a flying fuck if your happy or not with your stay once the money has been paid. I personally don't feel its a hotels job to babysit its patrons. That's not meant as a slight against Backpacker we all fuck up sometimes, but you do need to be careful when inviting strangers back to your room while inebriated. The safes are there for a reason.

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Guest Huckleberry Fin

Have they changed the staff at April suites ?? as i have never had any probs there and use to use the phone call as my q to get on balcony and get ready with camera as they walk away :)

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Have they changed the staff at April suites ?? as i have never had any probs there and use to use the phone call as my q to get on balcony and get ready with camera as they walk away :)

 

Since it's my first time here I don't know if they changed the staff...

An hour ago, when my lady for the night (a GG) left they did call me before they gave her her ID back.

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you could talk to the tourist police at the top of walking street - they will give proper advice on what you can do.

 

You perhaps should report the incident to the police and get a stolen item report from them if you need it for

insurance purposes (up to you)

 

it doesnt sound like good advice from the receptionist in the hotel - don't see why you would be under suspicion

when you have property stolen. You don't have to accuse anyone - just give the facts of the situation and it is up

to the police to prosecute if they wish to do so (up to you)

 

Walking street and late nightclubs are notorious for this type of activity as people have too much to drink and are

easy targets.

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Despite staying at a number of hotels in Pattaya and Bangkok, I don't recall any of them actually calling my room to check if giving ID back is OK. I figure it's a line up there with "the cheque is in the post".

 

A lesson learned indeed - I don't think you'll have much luck reporting a theft this long after the event and the Tourist police, although well meaning, are pretty ineffective.

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have been called a number of times in the hotel to confirm that all is well - happens when the lady leaves on her own a bit

early in the morning etc. It is very reassuring (if a little embarrassing) and is a good precaution if the guy falls asleep and the

lady tries to make off with all his possessions !

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I know u maybe pissed off but wipe your mouth, forget and move on, and hopefully u have learnt from it, enjoy the rest ov ur trip and be careful lock things up or if using a camera then check its still in loom before u pay and she walks out the door.....have a nice time................Regards Garry

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Jeez...what does it take to get some people to learn!!

 

We just had the thread of " LB Stole my wallet" if you cant learn the lesson from that and many others, as well as common sense, you are doomed to repeat it.

 

You think a hooker who picks you up at 3.00 am, gives a shit about you, and agrees to 500 baht LT feeling happy that that is all she is gonna get? All any hooker is interested in at 3.00am is to get as much from u in as short a time as possible.

 

what planet do you live on !!!

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Well, I leave my hands off freelancers I don't know, especialy at these godforsaken times.. And I wouldn't leave my belongings likes that.. I recognizesd the strange girls sneaking around the Bars and discos at 3am.. To dangerous, stoned and fucked.. Defenetly noone I would take to my room..

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Thanks for a very detailed report.

 

It was an error to get a FL at 3am in the pissed state and accept a 500 baht proposal for an LT. An LT in Pattaya is between 1500 and 2000 baht normaly, it may be down to 1000 baht at 3am.

 

However, let us look at your problem from he point of status. Your camera worth 150 US$ gone after an ST with a ladyboy, hotel receptionist not much of help.

 

My advise would be:

  • get her ID copy from your hotel reception, they will give it to you, but it will be written in Thai
  • go to the tourist police at the entry of WS, tell them what happened, show them the copy of the LB's IS, as well as the photos. If you have a possibility to print one of the photos, do it and bring it to the tourist police.
  • the tourist police will take your info, write it on a form, you will fill-in your data, and sign it
  • get a copy of the form, it will be necessary for your insurance

 

The idea that the LB will press charges against you is pure bullshit. I think it was invented by the receptionist to discourage you from going to report it to the police, since the hotel would be immediately involved, what means the hotel owner would get trouble and would very probably fire the receptionist.

 

The content is irrelevant either, you were not involved in any illegal activity.

 

Put a scanned copy of the LB's ID on the forum, so that it gets public. Somebody knowing Thai will eventually translated it for you.

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Well, I leave my hands off freelancers I don't know, especialy at these godforsaken times.. And I wouldn't leave my belongings likes that.. I recognizesd the strange girls sneaking around the Bars and discos at 3am.. To dangerous, stoned and fucked.. Defenetly noone I would take to my room..

mhm - I had a time, when i only took FLs f, and - I never had a problem.

Just use your brain, do not tempt them to steal: so lock everything away.

 

IMHO Being stoned and accepting an offer for 500 LT is asking for bullshit

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agreed in search.. Luckely I never had problems.. Maybe because I never get drunk enough to do so bullsh.. When I spend time with a girl I don't know, all my thinks are locked away.. Also, I never have more money, I would spend right away and pressures cameras, I don't posses.. So no tempting grom me.. Still it is difficult for me to take freelancers.. Before 12 on meachroad maybe, but I could never be as desprate to take one at 3-4-5am in some Soi, where all bars are closed since 2-3 hours.. Also, I have seen some nuts things going on with girls sneaking around in WS, when everyone is going home..

500THB sor a ST in my place? At 3am? dangerous thing..

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We all learn the hard way my friend and your a sitting duck to a FL LB being in a pissed state around the discos at 3am, prime target!!

 

Did you get her name/description as cant see any pics on here to warn us all to avoid this "just in pattaya for 1 day" LB.... :Reading:

You got off lightly as could have been drugged and had a lot more robbed esp if you let her know it was your 1st day in town and staying in one of the nicer hotels in town.

 

So the scores are;

 

WS FL thief 1- Naive farang 0

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