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New data suggests although ART may reduce the levels of HIV in the body, they are still able to hide and grow when ART stops. Could also suggest the PrEP solution is not flawless. By the way, when a search the Forums for "hiv" nothing comes up, interesting.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hiv-hidden-reservoirs-detected-powerful-150001504.html

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New data suggests although ART may reduce the levels of HIV in the body, they are still able to hide and grow when ART stops. Could also suggest the PrEP solution is not flawless. By the way, when a search the Forums for "hiv" nothing comes up, interesting.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hiv-hidden-reservoirs-detected-powerful-150001504.html

 

It's because forum search engine doesn't understand under 4 letter words. Try any 3 letter word and you get same result... nothing. 

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It's because forum search engine doesn't understand under 4 letter words. Try any 3 letter word and you get same result... nothing. 

So that means LB names like New, Bao, etc cannot be searched, hmmmm, technology. :blink:

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So that means LB names like New, Bao, etc cannot be searched, hmmmm, technology. :blink:

Yep. Or Oa. Try searching "ladyboy XX" and you'll get a result. Don't know how u can search for HIV though. Search function on this site it practically useless imo.

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New data suggests although ART may reduce the levels of HIV in the body, they are still able to hide and grow when ART stops. Could also suggest the PrEP solution is not flawless. By the way, when a search the Forums for "hiv" nothing comes up, interesting.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hiv-hidden-reservoirs-detected-powerful-150001504.html

They have known about the resevoirs of HIV for a long time. It is those that currently prevent a cure and why people have to take ARV's for life.

They are looking at drugs that can flush the dormant HIV out and make it active so the meds can kill it and new meds that can get into these places. One issue is that they have found HIV in areas where the body is not to happy to let drugs go.

 

It will be a while yet I think but one day they will get there.

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They have known about the resevoirs of HIV for a long time. It is those that currently prevent a cure and why people have to take ARV's for life.

They are looking at drugs that can flush the dormant HIV out and make it active so the meds can kill it and new meds that can get into these places. One issue is that they have found HIV in areas where the body is not to happy to let drugs go.

 

It will be a while yet I think but one day they will get there.

Well, that is what I thought when this whole PrEP fad was being announced as sex without the risk of getting HIV. Virus are tricky organisms they know how to adapt.

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Well, that is what I thought when this whole PrEP fad was being announced as sex without the risk of getting HIV. Virus are tricky organisms they know how to adapt.

Your article says nothing about PrEP. That is just something you make up about it because you have an anti PrEP agenda.

The way that PrEP works is that any virus entering the blood stream is killed before it can establish these hidden reservoirs.

Nothing new or groundbreaking in that article.

 

PrEP is scientifically, clinically, statistically and practically proven to work. No need to keep beating a dead horse anymore.

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Your article says nothing about PrEP. That is just something you make up about it because you have an anti PrEP agenda.

The way that PrEP works is that any virus entering the blood stream is killed before it can establish these hidden reservoirs.

Nothing new or groundbreaking in that article.

 

PrEP is scientifically, clinically, statistically and practically proven to work. No need to keep beating a dead horse anymore.

It talks about ART which is the same drugs PrEP is. Bottomline when you think you have a virus figured out, it changes. Up to you.

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It talks about ART which is the same drugs PrEP is. Bottomline when you think you have a virus figured out, it changes. Up to you.

Once again there is zero new knowledge in that article. The only thing that is new is the way of testing and finding hidden virus that are unable to replicate itself when a person is on ART. This is knowledge that is already decades old mate. It does not change the fact people who are under successful treatment is not infectious and it does not change the fact that PrEP works. Learn to read an article before commenting on it.

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Look, the whole point of the  article is that HIV, although undetectable in the Blood, can still be hiding in the body waiting to be activated. The HIV virus can lie dormant in skin cells that have no nucleus so they cannot reproduce and to become active and detectable i n the blood. Some on the Forum think they can take PrEP, fuck bareback for a couple of weeks and then get off PrEP, that is not the way it works. If anyone needs to be educated it is YOU! How someone can think that just because they take PrEP to protect them periodically against getinng HIV when having unprotected secx with sex workers, is assinine. You do not outsmart viruses that way, they outsmart you.

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Look, the whole point of the article is that HIV, although undetectable in the Blood, can still be hiding in the body waiting to be activated. The HIV virus can lie dormant in skin cells that have no nucleus so they cannot reproduce and to become active and detectable i n the blood. Some on the Forum think they can take PrEP, fuck bareback for a couple of weeks and then get off PrEP, that is not the way it works. If anyone needs to be educated it is YOU! How someone can think that just because they take PrEP to protect them periodically against getinng HIV when having unprotected secx with sex workers, is assinine. You do not outsmart viruses that way, they outsmart you.

As I said no new knowledge there. You are the one that doesn't understand. For the virus to establish these reservoirs there needs to be a full blown infection and the PrEP successfully prevents this. Taking PrEP for periods with higher risk is perfectly safe.

I have no idea why you are such an anti science twat. But you should really try to educate yourself just a little bit.

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As I said no new knowledge there. You are the one that doesn't understand. For the virus to establish these reservoirs there needs to be a full blown infection and the PrEP successfully prevents this. Taking PrEP for periods with higher risk is perfectly safe.

I have no idea why you are such an anti science twat. But you should really try to educate yourself just a little bit.

You are a completely ass and complete illiterate and a promoter of the spread of HIV because of your ignorance. You DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A FULL BLOWN INFECTION to have reservoirs of HIV hiding  in the body dormant. The key word is dormant. i.e. never activated for those who are a stupid. HIV can enter the skin cells no matter what kind of treatment you are on. It is when they takeover CD4 cells that they start to replicate. GO AHEAD and ruin your life and everyone else's who you come into contact. 

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You are a completely ass and complete illiterate and a promoter of the spread of HIV because of your ignorance. You DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A FULL BLOWN INFECTION to have reservoirs of HIV hiding in the body dormant. The key word is dormant. i.e. never activated for those who are a stupid. HIV can enter the skin cells no matter what kind of treatment you are on. It is when they takeover CD4 cells that they start to replicate. GO AHEAD and ruin your life and everyone else's who you come into contact.

Not going to repeat myself so go ahead and believe anything you want.

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Yep. Or Oa. Try searching "ladyboy XX" and you'll get a result. Don't know how u can search for HIV though. Search function on this site it practically useless imo.

Isn't that the truth...then when you get a hit for a name maybe in a trip report, you have to search the whole damn thing sometimes to finally hit pay dirt,the single name your searching for...very time consuming and frustrating! Edited by spooky60

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The pro PrEP community launches science best to their desired degree to justify going without condoms. We should be thankful that people who will probably go without use PrEP to limit the risk of others to some degree even though it is not 100% and not aimed at a strictly condomless audience. 

 

It's aimed at a high risk audience than might do something irresponsible due to drink or drugs.

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But it has also become a whole new sub culture, Ive seen people mention PreP on dating sites and even on classifieds for escorts advertising there services, Im not judging those that use PreP and bareback, just saying its morphing into a whole new sub culture..

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This is how PrEP works, again it just prevents the virus from replicating. It does not prevent the virus from entering other cells that do not have a nucleus.

 

https://vimeo.com/79717700

You are making shit up again. Please post a link that backs up what you say or fuck off. The links and video you have provided is about totally different issues and you are just making shit up based on your total misunderstanding of how things work.

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 An ex-GF of mine found out she had HIV when she had her son and he's in his early thirties.

The virus is now undetectable in her blood. I'm still in contact with her and I'll ask but I'm

pretty sure she still takes the meds.  So I don't think it's like if it becomes undetectable, it 

means it's really gone or your cured.

 

  I don't understand why people have an issue with wearing a condom.  I never used one before

HIV/AIDS became an issue.  But when it did and many of my friends got it, I started using them.

IMO,  there isn't much difference between the two.  Except having to put the thing on before you

fuck. B)

Edited by Tony Soprano

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 An ex-GF of mine found out she had HIV when she had her son and he's in his early thirties.

The virus is now undetectable in her blood. I'm still in contact with her and I'll ask but I'm

pretty sure she still takes the meds.  So I don't think it's like if it becomes undetectable, it 

means it's really gone or your cured.

 

  I don't understand why people have an issue with wearing a condom.  I never used one before

HIV/AIDS became an issue.  But when it did and many of my friends got it, I started using them.

IMO,  there isn't much difference between the two.  Except having to put the thing on before you

fuck. B)

There is no doubt that a person will be on ART the rest of their lives if they want to keep the Virus controlled. It is a virus, a living organism.

   More importantly,wearing a condom, especially when having sex with sex workers who fuck about 30 people per month. Really, if you are that stupid to have unprotected sex with sex workers, then we should all applaud your death as there is one less stupid person in the world who is a threat to the rest of humanity.

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There is no doubt that a person will be on ART the rest of their lives if they want to keep the Virus controlled. It is a virus, a living organism.

   More importantly,wearing a condom, especially when having sex with sex workers who fuck about 30 people per month. Really, if you are that stupid to have unprotected sex with sex workers, then we should all applaud your death as there is one less stupid person in the world who is a threat to the rest of humanity.

 

Maybe you misread that post.  After HIV/AIDS came out I've always used condoms.  I don't get why anyone who doesn't

wear them thinks there's some problem with wearing them and won't use them.

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Maybe you misread that post.  After HIV/AIDS came out I've always used condoms.  I don't get why anyone who doesn't

wear them thinks there's some problem with wearing them and won't use them.

No, I was agreeing with you and the statement was not meant for you but any other idiot who goes BB.

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