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A380. Best economy flight ever.

 

 

Also best layout in business class IMO, especially if you are travelling alone.

 

Airbus doesn't decide the seat configuration of an A380.  The buyer does.  When I've flown Emirates from Boston to

BKK,  the Boston to Dubai flight is a 777 and the Dubai to BKK is a A380.  Both business class.  Didn't seem any different

to me because there both Emirates.  Same when I last flew Boston to BKK, both legs I got bumped up to 1st Class.

Both were the same.

 

Anyone know how many A380's have to be sold for it to break even? 

 

FWIW,  Air Austral was thinking of a A380, all economy configuration which would have had 840 seats.  Ugh

 

US carriers don't use jumbo jets for domestic flights anymore.  They aren't needed.  A380's or 747's are for long haul

flights.  I know someone will likely bring up some exception to that though B)

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I think someone doesn't like A380.

He claims profit losses of 82% for Emirates while the company announced recently profit raise of 77% for 2017.

 

story says:

 

'Malaysia Airlines’ Irish chief executive Peter Bellew is even mulling a plan to cram more seats into his empty A380s'

 

on my last trip back to the UK I few Malaysian and the KL-London and London-KL leg was on an A380, both ways the plane was full. 

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Hope to find out what an A380 is like next year.

A double decker jet liner m8. Other than that no difference really.  Oh they are quieter as well, engines that is, sometimes it feels like your not flying.

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US carriers don't use jumbo jets for domestic flights anymore.  They aren't needed.  A380's or 747's are for long haul

flights.  I know someone will likely bring up some exception to that though B)

Emirates flies Dubai to Doha on an A380 - 380 miles I think.

 

Also they have regularly flown Australian East Coast to NZ - maybe half a dozen flights a day, but that will be stopping shortly,

 

And of course Thai Airways regularly uses 747 on domestic flights. Along with their 777's.

 

Not sure of the impact as they are supposed to be for long haul in that they aren't designed to be doing as many cycles as say an A320

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Emirates flies Dubai to Doha on an A380 - 380 miles I think.

When you look at the 777, how many variants there is and in 10 years the A380 has only been through one upgrade and another upgrade on the hold I still think its got potential.  Air traffic is increasing and in some parts of the world it will boom.  

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Many airports around the world do not have the aircraft stand space to accommodate the 380.

 

The wingspan on a 747 jumbo jet is (224 ft). The 380 is (261 ft) a difference of 37 feet. Then build in the safety margin of space needed between two stationary aircraft.

 

So the 380 needs 2 aircraft stands. Airlines pay an airport authority for the renting of the stand. So operating costs are higher. All the time the aircraft is on the ground it's not earning. Hence the turn round time is vital. Example the BA flight arrives approx 09.30hrs Bangkok. Same aircraft has a departure time of 11.40 hrs. It's kept to a minimum. Busy airports with limited stand space and congestion can not handle the 380.

 

The smaller twin aisle wide body jets such as the Boeing 777 are far more fuel efficient. These have become the work horse of the sky's.

 

Was still at LHR working when the first 380 landed in 2007. Until you stand next to the thing and go inside when it is empty you can not really appreciate what a monster this is.

 

Rgds soidog.

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Emirates flies Dubai to Doha on an A380 - 380 miles I think.

 

Also they have regularly flown Australian East Coast to NZ - maybe half a dozen flights a day, but that will be stopping shortly,

 

And of course Thai Airways regularly uses 747 on domestic flights. Along with their 777's.

 

Not sure of the impact as they are supposed to be for long haul in that they aren't designed to be doing as many cycles as say an A320

it seems the DXB DOH route was the busiest route in the world. The 380was needed to reduce the number of flights.

Not anymore as the ban on Qatar cancelled all flights from UAE to DOH

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A double decker jet liner m8. Other than that no difference really.  Oh they are quieter as well, engines that is, sometimes it feels like your not flying.

No? Hmm ok well will be my first time on one so looking forward to that.

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