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#1 LBHunter

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 08:47 AM

Thought I'd share this website and article with other Forum members in the interest of protecting all of our member's personal identity information: atmsecurity.com

Some of this may be common knowledge but it never hurts to review the basics.

The article below is a good introduction to basic ATM security tips.

http://www.atmsecuri...-education.html

and this one is a very good expose about "skimming"

http://www.thestanda...nize-card-fraud

Finally, here is Bangkok Bank's advice:

"ATMs are a major convenience in our lives and most people now rely on them to transfer money, withdraw cash or pay bills. However, as the use of ATMs has risen worldwide there has been an increase in ATM fraud.

To help protect you from scams and thieves, Bangkok Bank has prepared eleven top tips and a guide to ATM skimming to improve your ATM security. By following these simple precautions you can protect your savings and enjoy the security of knowing that your money is safe.

1. Always shield the key pad with your hand when you are entering your PIN number so that it cannot be read by secret cameras or strangers.

2. Get into the habit of using the same ATM machine for your transactions. Become familiar with it so you will be able to recognize changes to the machine.

3. If you must use a different ATM, check it carefully for devices which may have been fitted on top of the original features. As a general rule of thumb, it is better to use a newer machine, which will have additional safety features such as anti-skimming hardware.

4. Use ATMs in places with good lighting and in very secure or high traffic areas such as beside a 24 hour retail outlet or inside a bank.

5. Look out for 'extra' cameras in the ATM booth apart from the regular ATM security camera. Do not use an ATM if it has fittings above the machine such as a brochure holder as these may be used to conceal cameras.

6. Use your body to block the view of people behind you from looking over your shoulder.

7. If an ATM is malfunctioning and it holds your card, report this to the bank immediately and cancel your ATM on the spot.

8. If an ATM is not working, it may be a scam to direct you to a nearby ATM which has been tampered with. Use another machine well away from this location.

9. Never hand your ATM card to a stranger for any reason and be extremely wary of anyone who approaches you when you are using an ATM.

10. Be cautious about withdraw large amounts of cash at ATMs if you are alone or in an area where there is no security.

11. Apply for Bangkok Bank’s Be1st Smart Visa Debit card, Thailand’s first debit card to use EMV chip security technology, which is almost impossible to copy.



Guide to ATM Skimming
As criminals become more sophisticated in their technical know-how, ATM skimming and counterfeit debit card fraud has become more common. ATM skimming occurs when criminals alter an ATM with technology which copies information contained on a card’s magnetic stripe.

How do criminals ‘skim’ an ATM?
The most common criminal practice is via a phony-front ATM. The fraudster places a fake keypad directly over the legitimate ATM keypad, copying the cardholder’s Personal Identification Number (PIN) as they use the ATM. Criminals additionally place a phony ATM card reader over the card insert slot to capture the card’s magnetic-stripe data.

Cardholders then unknowingly use the phony-front ATM to conduct a cash transaction, swiping the card and entering their PIN. The information is then sent to a remote computer and either an ‘unable to dispense cash’ message appears, or ‘the cash is dispensed and the actual transaction is completed’, depending on the type of phony ATM card reader used."

Edited by LBHunter, 28 February 2010 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:49 PM

One thing I've noticed about ATM's in Thailand is that unlike in the UK, they give you your cash first and then return your card. When you're used to taking your cash being the last thing you do, it's easy walk away and leave your card, especially after a few drinks. This happened to one guy I met in Phuket. Luckily he realised in the morning and cancelled his card and no money was lost. But as you can imagine, it was a major inconvienience for him...

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:11 AM

That happened to me a couple of years ago in Carrefour, Pats. Luckily it was on my second to last day so I just cancelled my card once I realised, & lived on the cash I had left.



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Posted 27 November 2011 - 12:15 PM

There was a scam several years ago in Pattaya where bank employees were involved. Apparently they were able to the card details of all cards and the PIN of the last card entered. In all my time in Thailand I follow a procedure of completing my transaction and then entering another card that has a balance of about 200 baht remaining. I enter a dodgy 3 numbered PIN and cancel the transaction. It takes 10 seconds and I have never had an issue.

For expats with Thai accounts, you should check the daily withdrawal limit of the card / bank you are with. I am with Siam Commercial and it is 20,000 baht. Another mate of mine lost a card 3 years ago and had 80,000 baht stolen in one day. That was with Kasikorn. Best to check. Most banks have good Internet banking and if one runs more than one account the majority of funds can be held in an account not linked to the card, but accessible by Internet banking. With Siam Comm Internet banking one can even purchase Air Asia flights online and pay by authorizing a deduction.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:13 PM

Theres always the fake ATM machine as well. I never use these machines that you see around Bangkok that appear to be just plonked down on the pavement or outside a shop. Saying that I spent 9 months in SEA last year, never had a problem, flew back to UK and the first ATM I used, had my card skimmed. Didn't realise it, but I give my bank its due, within an hour their security section telephoned me and asked if I'd made a donation to a Charity Organisation. No quibble refund, new cards all round. Like putytat stated good to have account with only basic funds in, for your ATM needs, with no overdraft facility attached, Basic stuff I know, but online banking and internet cafes...its got to be a no no really, although I have heard that some customers have been more than happy with the banking, deposits and withdrawals in the VJ internet bar.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 07:03 AM

I used Siam Commercial Bank for large withdrawals last trip.I withdrew cash from inside the bank,no problem.
It saves you using atms and safer IMO.Posted Image

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:48 PM

FYI,I had my card info stolen in Patts last month, and used for a withdrawal in Moscow shortly after. Not sure where or exactly when it actually happened , or how 4 that matter. Did they steal or even need to steal my PIN? I dunno, i do know they didnt need a the card itself, makes u wonder what the fuck is safe anymore. I also must assume it was a Russian who did this and not a Thai, , and from what i hear the Russian mob is big into this scam. They actually have machines that steal all ur info inside of the ATM itself. I am pretty secure when putting my PIN in, so i believe this is how it happened. Also since my card never left my possesion. I also know that there is a reason my bank gave me this $ back faster than i could even transfer funds from my own acct to another. The reason being twofold 1) u have been paying 4 these scams with high interest rates and no interest on ur $ for as long as u have used a bank, and thus why 2 minutes on the phone and nothing more than me saying i did not use my card in this instance and BINGO , i had my $ back the next day. The 2nd reason is , if they had not done this and given me back my $, i would have withdrawn from their bank and possibly all banks altogether. I mean if its not safe , why use it? Makes u wonder. I can only assume this is harder 4 them to do (the scam) at main branch ATM's and have to assume it was done at a 7-11 or seperate machine. So now i only use ATM at the actual bank, a small inconvenience. Now getting my new card shipped to LOS, BIG inconvenience. Good thing i opened an acct here or i'd be up shits creek.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:13 PM

Just open an account at Kasikorn and use their debit card. very easy and convenient.
And you can send money from abroad when the exchange rate suits you.
Their fees are very reasonable and forex rates usually ok.

To exactly know how the punks can copy your card and get your PIN, google this: skimming

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:21 PM

OMG next time I'll peep inside as well just to make sure :-)
Thanks for the tips fellas...

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