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[diamonddog]

I have had a good look round but can't find anything on this subject easily i am sure Hep in general is mentioned here somewhere, but for another newbies like me planning to travel it's worth noting that Hep B is a 3 injection course and takes more than 2 weeks. I found this out when i had my A and first B jab last week, there has to be 7 days between the first B and the second one and i think 7 days again, as the nurse told me i would not get my 3rd jab before i travel, therefore technically i will not be fully protected!
I am thinking of asking her to do the 3rd jab the day before i travel which will be a think 2 days before it should be.

Moral of the tale is you deffo need both A and B if you plan on even kissing the 'girls' but make sure you start the jabs at least 1 month before you leave.

My question is MALARIA, it was on UK news just today that infection has gone up 30% in past 2 years, so so i get tablets for my 9 night trip….yes yes yes, i will ask the nurse as well…lol

Edited by diamonddog, 26 April 2011 - 12:53 AM.

[Lost In Loei]

diamonddog, on 26 April 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:

I have had a good look round but can't find anything on this subject easily i am sure Hep in general is mentioned here somewhere, but for another newbies like me planning to travel it's worth noting that Hep B is a 3 injection course and takes more than 2 weeks. I found this out when i had my A and first B jab last week, there has to be 7 days between the first B and the second one and i think 7 days again, as the nurse told me i would not get my 3rd jab before i travel, therefore technically i will not be fully protected!
I am thinking of asking her to do the 3rd jab the day before i travel which will be a think 2 days before it should be.

Moral of the tale is you deffo need both A and B if you plan on even kissing the 'girls' but make sure you start the jabs at least 1 month before you leave.

My question is MALARIA, it was on UK news just today that infection has gone up 30% in past 2 years, so so i get tablets for my 9 night trip….yes yes yes, i will ask the nurse as well…lol

Malaria prophylaxis is not really needed but if you want to take something get Doxycycline, about 100mg/day. The quinones have really nasty side effects and are not recommended at all. Can't sleep, horrible nightmares and suicidal delusions. Really nasty stuf.

Deet spray is probably enough for a short staty like that. Dengue is another risk and is worse. Not sure about Thailand but in India, day mosquitos give you Dengue and night mosquitos give you malaria.

I have not gotten either with no protection at all so the risk is lower than the papers make it out to be. Check the number of cases against the population size. A 30% increase on 2000 cases in 4 milion people is a pretty small risk. Not sure what the actuial numbers are but worth looking at.

Edited by Lost In Loei, 26 April 2011 - 01:08 AM.

[Solice]

diamonddog, on 26 April 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:

I have had a good look round but can't find anything on this subject easily i am sure Hep in general is mentioned here somewhere, but for another newbies like me planning to travel it's worth noting that Hep B is a 3 injection course and takes more than 2 weeks. I found this out when i had my A and first B jab last week, there has to be 7 days between the first B and the second one and i think 7 days again, as the nurse told me i would not get my 3rd jab before i travel, therefore technically i will not be fully protected!
I am thinking of asking her to do the 3rd jab the day before i travel which will be a think 2 days before it should be.

Moral of the tale is you deffo need both A and B if you plan on even kissing the 'girls' but make sure you start the jabs at least 1 month before you leave.

My question is MALARIA, it was on UK news just today that infection has gone up 30% in past 2 years, so so i get tablets for my 9 night trip….yes yes yes, i will ask the nurse as well…lol

There are different strengths of Hep B jab.

Usually the second jab is given 1 month after the first, you should get the 3rd jab 1 year after the second as a booster, you are then protected for I believe 10-12 years.

In some instances you can have the second jab 7 days after the first, this is due to the type of Hep B vaccine but you would still have to wait 1 year to have the 3rd jab.

If you have had 2 jabs then you are fully protected.

It is worth noting because of how easily it is to contract Hep B, many girls will use your toothbrush without you knowing, this is an easy way to contract it. Hep B is rife in Thailand and its worth taking the precaution by having the vaccine.

Solice

[Jeff Mango]

Please let this newbie know why Hep A/B immunizations is necessary protection for kissing ladyboys. I never thought it would become an issue. Help me understand the dangers of kissing a ladyboy. I've read a few threads about Hepititus thoughts/protection and would like to know if it's really necessary. I claim absolute ignorance. I want to be prepared for my November return because I will kiss. Please.

[Lost In Loei]

Jeff Mango, on 26 April 2011 - 03:44 AM, said:

Please let this newbie know why Hep A/B immunizations is necessary protection for kissing ladyboys. I never thought it would become an issue. Help me understand the dangers of kissing a ladyboy. I've read a few threads about Hepititus thoughts/protection and would like to know if it's really necessary. I claim absolute ignorance. I want to be prepared for my November return because I will kiss. Please.

Hep A&B are rare but easily transmittable. There are shots for it. It takes 2 months to take the shots. Go to the travel medicine clinic and get shots. Make sure they record your shots on the international medical card. Keep the medical card with your passport.

That should cover it.

Look here and learn all you need to know: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov...s/thailand.aspx

Edited by Lost In Loei, 26 April 2011 - 06:42 AM.

[nightrider]

Hep A you can catch from contaminated food, Hep B you catch from blood or semen, so if you kiss you would both have to have open wounds in your mouths that were bleeding, that is why the toothbrush is one way to transmit the disease,

Hep B is a tough to kill it can live outside the body for a long time ( I believe days).

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Hepatitis_B

[male4ladyboy]

I agree that you should have the Hep A and B shots before you come.

On Malaria, I have lived here for several years and I don't even have medication any more - just check on the area you are going to. If you go to Chiang Mai, visit this place: http://www.asiarooms...chiang-mai.html This great elderly professor is a world expert on Malaria and he told me that to take medication for it in Thailand is about the same level as refusing to ever cross a road again....

Best way not to get mozzie bites, use some spray (carry a tiny bottle in your pocket if you are worried) and do what the Thais do - use a mozzie net in the villages, and a fan directed on you if you are in a bungalow - they will not come near you then.

[bkkldby]

diamonddog, on 26 April 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:

I have had a good look round but can't find anything on this subject easily i am sure Hep in general is mentioned here somewhere, but for another newbies like me planning to travel it's worth noting that Hep B is a 3 injection course and takes more than 2 weeks. I found this out when i had my A and first B jab last week, there has to be 7 days between the first B and the second one and i think 7 days again, as the nurse told me i would not get my 3rd jab before i travel, therefore technically i will not be fully protected!
I am thinking of asking her to do the 3rd jab the day before i travel which will be a think 2 days before it should be.

Moral of the tale is you deffo need both A and B if you plan on even kissing the 'girls' but make sure you start the jabs at least 1 month before you leave.

My question is MALARIA, it was on UK news just today that infection has gone up 30% in past 2 years, so so i get tablets for my 9 night trip….yes yes yes, i will ask the nurse as well…lol

i cannot say anything regarding the hep prophylaxis, but i think unless you are gong up-country to the village the malaria is not such a worry.

i took all kinds of precautions when i first came here and i finally realized that unless i was going to boondocks, it was not really required.

but i am no expert.

[Robi_slo]

Don't get bullied or be ashamed and only be vaccinated against Hep A. Some look with prejudice to ones who opt for Hep B vaccination, in my country for instance they only recommend to be vaccinated against Hep A since this is “backpackers vaccine”... Hep B or combined vaccine is still not so popular. I didn't care a bit and before my first Thai trip I got combined vaccination against A and B... you only have one life to play with.

BR

[Robi_slo]

male4ladyboy, on 26 April 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I agree that you should have the Hep A and B shots before you come.

On Malaria, I have lived here for several years and I don't even have medication any more - just check on the area you are going to. If you go to Chiang Mai, visit this place: http://www.asiarooms...chiang-mai.html This great elderly professor is a world expert on Malaria and he told me that to take medication for it in Thailand is about the same level as refusing to ever cross a road again....

Best way not to get mozzie bites, use some spray (carry a tiny bottle in your pocket if you are worried) and do what the Thais do - use a mozzie net in the villages, and a fan directed on you if you are in a bungalow - they will not come near you then.

Toffee (ex Ezy girl) got malaria like 5 km from downtown Korat so you never know, but still I don't take medicine,side effects are something I'm scared even more and until now I was lucky.

BR

[diamonddog]

Lost In Loei, on 26 April 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

The quinones have really nasty side effects and are not recommended at all. Can't sleep, horrible nightmares and suicidal delusions. Really nasty stuf.

Deet spray is probably enough for a short staty like that. Dengue is another risk and is worse. Not sure about Thailand but in India, day mosquitos give you Dengue and night mosquitos give you malaria.

Thanks, really useful information for me and others who are traveling, especially for the first time.

Deet spray ???? what is it, anti mozzi spray ?
and
Dengue is another new one on me !

[diamonddog]

Solice, on 26 April 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

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In some instances you can have the second jab 7 days after the first, this is due to the type of Hep B vaccine but you would still have to wait 1 year to have the 3rd jab.

It is worth noting because of how easily it is to contract Hep B, many girls will use your toothbrush without you knowing, this is an easy way to contract it. Hep B is rife in Thailand and its worth taking the precaution by having the vaccine.

Solice

cheers Solice, i am having the second jab tomorrow and as someone else said i have a book to recored it in, the toothbrush thing is something i would not have thought of, so a good if a little extreme tip would be……..

pop your toothbrush in the safe with all your valuables !

Hopefully me and many others are learning important stuff here

[diamonddog]

Jeff Mango, on 26 April 2011 - 03:44 AM, said:

Please let this newbie know why Hep A/B immunizations is necessary protection for kissing ladyboys.

thanks `jeff and YES i know B can be transmitted from kissing,saliva or any body fluids, so if you wanna kiss then get the B jab…has to be better safe than sorry

[diamonddog]

Lost In Loei, on 26 April 2011 - 06:41 AM, said:

Hep A&B are rare but easily transmittable. There are shots for it. It takes 2 months to take the shots. Go to the travel medicine clinic and get shots. Make sure they record your shots on the international medical card. Keep the medical card with your passport.

That should cover it.

Look here and learn all you need to know: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov...s/thailand.aspx

+1 for reminding me to take the booklet with my passport, nice one

[diamonddog]

Robi_slo, on 27 April 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

Don't get bullied or be ashamed and only be vaccinated against Hep A. Some look with prejudice to ones who opt for Hep B vaccination, in my country for instance they only recommend to be vaccinated against Hep A since this is “backpackers vaccine”... Hep B or combined vaccine is still not so popular. I didn't care a bit and before my first Thai trip I got combined vaccination against A and B... you only have one life to play with.

BR

Robi, your post is brilliant, when i asked my doctor in the UK she only advised on HepA, when i went in with the nurse for the jab i asked for A and B, she even tried to put me off B by saying it was 30 pounds and the A was free and also that if i was to have sex with anyone then do it on the plane going over ! How uneducated, i said to her 'but how do you kn ow which country they were in the week before!'
I had to insist on the B jab and as you say 'don't get bullied or shamed over it'

has to be a +1 for you my friend

[Lost In Loei]

diamonddog, on 27 April 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

Thanks, really useful information for me and others who are traveling, especially for the first time.

Deet spray ???? what is it, anti mozzi spray ?
and
Dengue is another new one on me !

DEET is the active ingredient in the high octane insect repellents. No idea what it stands for. It is marketed in the US as "Deep Woods Off" among others.

HEP A&B came in one jab for the first round and then just B for the second and third. Skipping A or B was not an option living in Asia. If you are standing there anyway getting jabbed, get everything you can.

Dengue is a nasty brain infection that you do not want. Malaria they can knock out pretty well megadosing on mefloquin or proquin. The risk of both is pretty low in a short trip.

[Ringspun]

Solice, on 26 April 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

There are different strengths of Hep B jab.

Usually the second jab is given 1 month after the first, you should get the 3rd jab 1 year after the second as a booster, you are then protected for I believe 10-12 years.

In some instances you can have the second jab 7 days after the first, this is due to the type of Hep B vaccine but you would still have to wait 1 year to have the 3rd jab.

If you have had 2 jabs then you are fully protected.

It is worth noting because of how easily it is to contract Hep B, many girls will use your toothbrush without you knowing, this is an easy way to contract it. Hep B is rife in Thailand and its worth taking the precaution by having the vaccine.

Solice

Good advice from Solice... they sure as hell do use em and you can easily get it from this...

Also as I mentioned before you can get all jab's free from local sexual health clinic (in UK anyway) just say you use prostitutes abroad, you don't have to mention what type and they will be falling over themselves to jab you!

I think it is 3 times now about 7 - 14 days apart then a booster jab 6 months later.

[Lost In Loei]

Mine was A&B in the first then 2 more, B only, 30 days apart. There are a bunch of programs but anything is better than nothing. Hepatitus would suck. Cheap insurance vs the monumental cost and hassle of getting sick.

Take a stack of extra tooth brushes for the girls. They do tend to wander off.

You don't need to mention hookers at all, just tell them you are touring in Asia and tehy will know what to do. The UK medicals do not want you bringing Hepatitus home for them to deal with.

Edited by Lost In Loei, 03 May 2011 - 01:04 AM.

[Hawaiidiver2]

I bring a handful of extra tooth brushes to make it easy for my partner to brush her teeth if she hasn't brought her own. Used to be the days when airlines offered them on long flights and I'd grab a handful before the flight landed in LOS.

Regarding the Hep vaccine. I was do for a booster since my previous shots before trips to Botswana and Zimbabwe were do to "expire". It was recommended by my Dr. (because it was cheaper) to get tested to see if I still had the Hep antibodies in my body and still active. As it turned out, they were and I could skip the boosters....

I kiss and rim with drunken abandon...........

[Robi_slo]

On my first trip I bought 3M deet repellent (on picture) because I went on Koh Samed where dengue fever exist. Needless to say I forgot DEET creme at home and on island I bought some natural anti-mosquito repellent... and it worked like a charm. Be advised you have to try first if you are not allergic to DEET, if you are you can end up in hospital like my friend from Army did with the worse case of rash I've seen.

BR

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